Podcast-ioque with Gavin Ortlund

I love the doctrine of the Holy Spirit’s eternal procession, and furthermore I think the question of the Son’s involvement in that procession is important. But I also think it’s important not to fuss about it in the way it is often fussed about. I’m not trying to be evasive or mysterious about my view (and I have written about it in a book), but it takes a little while to lay out the whole thing. Gavin Ortlund gave me a chance to talk through this topic with him. Gavin’s YouTube teaching ministry is all kitted out right, so don’t miss the chapter breaks w/links.

00:00 – Book Recommendation 01:32 – Fred’s Journey on the Trinity 4:54 – Overcoming Fear of Heresy 07:11 – Should We Pray to the Holy Spirit? 10:59 – What is the Filioque? 13:10 – An Alteration to the Creed? 15:17 – Church Fathers Who Affirm the Filioque 16:31 – Too Much Bad Blood on This Issue? 20:40 – Triaging the Filioque 23:09 – Theological Rationale For the Filioque 26:25 – Theological Appeals Against the Filioque 28:07 – Maximus on “Through the Son” 30:29 – How to De-escalate the Division 34:03 – Church Fathers to Explore on This Issue 35:58 – Protestant Attitudes to the Filioque 40:35 – Importance of the Filioque 42:59 – The Trinity and the Gospel 45:58 – Recommending Resources